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Welcome to the second interview in our series featuring clients whose businesses are thriving despite the current economic climate. Click here to read the first interview with Christian Oth.

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In the same year they had their first child, Chris and Darcie Siiteri started their Austin (Texas) photography business, Innovative Photography. Fifteen years later they’re still at it and doing better than ever.

I gave an initially nervous Darcie an early morning call to chat about how they approach their album sales, and what they do to ensure their clients have an amazing experience and to foster relationships with other vendors…

Making it good

Price wise, it’s fair to say they started low. Darcie says, “I thought that if we made a $200 profit on every wedding we’d be rich.” 98 weddings later they needed help.

They found a mentor who told them to do four things: raise your prices, simplify your sales, have a flat hourly rate and don’t overwhelm your clients.

So they did just that. They raised their prices and toned down their whole approach, which included clearing their studio walls of portraits to create a cleaner and simpler look. Now their biggest problem is keeping their Labrador from jumping all over their clients when they walk in the door. But changing their studio isn’t the only thing they’ve done to boost business.

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Making the sale

Album sales currently make up half of Chris and Darcie’s turnover. In fact, they went from ‘new client’ to what we call a ‘Top Tier’ client virtually overnight. But it wasn’t until they made a major change that they started to see increased returns from their albums sales.

“After digital came along we stopped offering large proof books with 5×5 prints in them. Clients were seeing them as a good (free) alternative to an album, and they weren’t buying. So we started to give our clients proof books of thumbnail images instead. Our album sales instantly went up.”

Chris and Darcie now include an Album Product Credit in their packages, which the clients can spend on whatever they like (enlargements etc). I broached the up-selling issue and she told me, “We’re artists. People love our work and they buy it, we don’t have to push it. I want every product we make to be unique and artful”. So she’s not one to push her clients, or look for the big sale, but Darcie says her clients appreciate their honesty.

Client experience

“We’re always direct and honest with them and give them our opinion, but I’m more concerned with the experience and relationship I have with my clients than with squeezing as much money out of them as I can.”

That relationship starts right from the first time they meet. Darcie says rarely do any of her clients have to ring the doorbell. “When we know there’s a client coming I’ve got my eyes peeled for when they drive in. I always greet them at the door and welcome them into our studio – it’s just a little way of showing that we care and we’re excited to meet them.”

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Clients, Vendors and us

By this stage I knew Darcie loved making sure her clients have the most wonderful experience when they come to her – relationships are important. Chris and Darcie have also been fostering relationships with vendors in town, who they say regularly send business their way.

“We are constantly emailing vendors new images and updating their albums – we focus on taking extremely good care of them. Almost everything we give them is free and it’s worth it’s weight in gold.”

From hotels and florists to the local judge, they say the relationship goes both ways. For example they’ve set up a deal with a florist who, in return for product shots, sends flowers to Chris and Darcie’s top clients.

“We work very hard at maintaining our relationships with local top hotels and wedding venues”. In fact they’ve had so many requests from vendors to do their corporate photography that Chris and Darcie have set up a Vendors Rate: vendors can get their work or personal photography done at a discounted price.

Other than past client referrals, vendors are now Chris and Darcie’s largest source of referrals.

Darcie says volunteer work is a great way to build and develop relationships. “We work closely with a charity for disabled children, offering our services for fundraising and promotional work.”

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Queensberry

So how did Chris and Darcie end up using Queensberry as their album supplier? Well it was Darcie’s 2am urge to look for ’something different’. Sitting up late one night, surfing the net, she came across Queensberry and decided to check us out. She ordered a Queensberry album, unassembled, and put photos from a recent wedding in it to see how it would look. It wasn’t meant for the client, but the client somehow saw it and just had to have it.

Darcie says, “Queensberry beautifies our business. To see the beautiful albums they create for our clients keeps us grounded. They’re so elegant.”

When it comes to album design, Darcie gets Queensberry to do it. Why? “I’d rather not be designing albums when I know there’s someone else that can do it for me, and better than me.”

Parting words

“Have fun when you shoot, be really honest with your clients and always seek to do better,” was Darcie’s parting advice. Oh, and “Always give your clients the best products you can ever imagine.”

Click here to view Chris and Darcie’s website and portfolio

Cheers, Nigel

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    My interview with Rod Ellmore talked about how the close partnership between photographers and vendors in the ’70s and ’80s helped build some great careers, but it wasn’t all positive.

    One disadvantage was that marketing gimmicks picked up at seminars organised by the vendors propagated like viruses! Like this one – the notorious “couple in the brandy glass”.

    Pam brought us a picture (left) from her brother Martin’s 80s wedding to Simone (thanks for sharing!). And I found proof that tacky ideas live on in Photoshop.

    Now you know I’m a snob – but not as much as I used to be:

    • There’s nothing wrong with tack, just unoriginal tack (yes, I loved The Wedding Singer)
    • Unfortunately, tackiness hides real quality, at least from people like me.

    For example in the seventies I was listening to Neil Young, The Band, Dylan, Van Morrison, Joni Mitchell et al. Also Linda Ronstadt (but only because she sang Warren Zevon songs). Never Abba! It took Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Muriel’s Wedding and now Mamma Mia to prove their songs have great bones. And when you go back and look they actually played it pretty straight, at least in this clip. They just didn’t look like my heroes:

    It’s easy to laugh at older bad taste, but the newer stuff isn’t as easy to spot.

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    Rodney Ellmore, a good friend and long time Queensberry client, enjoyed a distinguished 46-year career.

    Over lunch recently I asked him about the shift from black-and-white to colour photography that transformed the portrait and wedding industry. Profitable careers were built on strong partnerships between a generation of photographers and their vendors.

    I believe there are lessons here for our own tumultuous times.

    Click here to download the mp3 file (6.5 mins).

    Cheers, Ian

    PS How did Rod “keep us honest”? If we were ever unsure of something, we’d ask ourselves, “Is it good enough for Rod?” Every business needs such good-humoured, supportive, demanding clients. And to listen to them.

    I shot the picture on my iPhone. Rod says he likes the back-lighting but I’m sure he’s being kind.

     

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    Relationships with local wedding venues are a great way to build a strong wedding and portrait business, and a beautiful display album featuring the venue works well for both parties.

    Simon Whitten is a long-standing and valued Queensberry client from Yorkshire in England. His association with the luxury castle hotel Swinton Park is very important to him, and for years his Queensberry sample album has rested on the piano in the drawing room.

    When the time came to update it, the question was “with what?”

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    These days most of his clients tend towards the 14×10 Duo that Simon prefers. But feeling the 14×10 “didn’t quite cut it”, he decided the new display album should be a larger 18×12 Duo (in Denim Leather) instead.

    Having covered many great weddings at Swinton Park, his next problem was which one to feature? In the end he decided on a “best of” album featuring three couples/weddings that reflected both his own best work and Swinton Park at various times of the year.

    • Sarah and Paul had “a glorious summer wedding in 2006”, with a theme of simplicity and elegance.

    • Caroline and Jonathan had a fabulous winter marquee wedding in 2007 (“about minus five degrees Celcius and freezing fog!!”)

    • The most recent event was Emmeline and Robin’s beautiful Anglo-Italian spring wedding in 2008.

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    Simon was tempted to add an Autumn wedding to create a true ‘Four Seasons’ album, but had too much material from the three weddings already selected. (Emmeline and Robin’s own Queensberry album is in twin volumes totaling 98 pages and nearly 300 images.)

    Simon feels the result speaks for itself. “It’s a pretty fabulous showcase album and hopefully will do me sterling service at the venue for many years to come.”

    Something else that wouldn’t surprise us: brides wanting to upgrade from the 14×10 to the 18×12, so they can have what they saw at the castle.

    Click here to view Simon Whitten’s Swinton Park display album.

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