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Remember your first time?

Doing whatever. Maybe photographing your first wedding?

Years back when Subway turned up in New Zealand it took me 10 minutes and enough questions to drive mum up the wall to finally place my order. Why? Because I didn’t know how.

I’ve just committed to spending a lot of money on our wedding photography, but before I did, I was nervous. Not so much because of the money, but because I wasn’t sure what I’d get for it.

It was my first time.

I’m in the industry, talk to photographers all the time, and write articles about marketing and business every day.  But I still felt vulnerable. Like a dumb user.

I wanted to ask my photographer all those questions I already knew the answer to. I wanted to be assured, and re-assured, that my expectations were realistic.

I have absolute faith in him, and couldn’t ask for a better photographer if I tried – but that didn’t matter. I needed my hand held and all my questions answered. I needed to feel like I understood.

Maybe I should be lying on a leather couch in a shrink’s room, but here’s the point.

There’s one thing that’s true about me, and every other couple buying wedding photography – and it’s important for a photographer to understand.

Your couple has (probably) never bought wedding photography before.

Make it your job to provide them with the environment where it’s OK to feel vulnerable or nervous or out of their depth.

Teach them. Assure them. Understand them. Laugh with them. Cry with them. And treat every ‘dumb’ question as important.

Make their first time a comfortable experience. The rest will follow.

Cheers, Nigel

 

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  • When people contact us about their wedding, if they are doing a general search, they most often ask, ‘How much to shoot our wedding?’

    Eventually they get around to ‘What do I get?’ and finally ‘Are you available?’

    This email just came in. It says it all really.

    To whom it may concern,

    Would it be possible to be sent a full price list of your wedding packages?

    Thanks,
    Justin

    We all want our clients to care, because it is the caring that makes them better clients.

    So what are we selling?

    Are we selling a product at a price?

    Are we selling our ability to make great photographs?

    Are we selling our ability as a digital artist?

    Are we selling our ability to tell a good story  (the one where the Princess wore white and the Prince was dashing – off to a wedding) and somewhere there is a happy ever after?

    Here at Moda we are selling something for them to care about.

    We are selling them more than just photography.

    We have photographs that show our skills.

    We have stories that talk about our experiences.

    We have albums that show our ability to put together a good fairy tale.

    We have a studio that reflects our attention to our clients’ needs and our drive to be our best.

    We are not selling 400 images in a box, two enlargements and an album with 20 sides.

    We are selling them an experience.

    How much should that cost?

    The next question is how do we get our clients to recognise that?

    Cheers, Johannes

     

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    Photography? (But what does that mean)

    Entertainment? (Couldn’t afford the clown for the party)

    Documentation? (Recording content for a historical document)

    Memories? (Least we forget)

    Glamorisation? (See, the bride can look glam with the right dress, makeup, hairdo, and some photoshop!)

    Impressionism? (To impress the neighbours)

    Fairytaleism? (Living the dream)

    Then you might ask, what are each of these worth in the final package?

    It would be an interesting exercise to give each a percentage value. And then think about those percentages, and ask yourself – not what are you selling, but what is your client buying?

    Nigel had a great post on The Junction about a washing machine that sold on New Zealand auction site TradeMe. … If you read the listing (and comments – well worth it if you feel like a break) you’ll see it wasn’t a washing machine but in fact a “time portal” … obviously worth much more than a cranky old machine … So it sold for over five grand after 806,219 page views.

    Are your clients buying what you think they are? Could you change that?

    Hugs

    Johannes

     

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  • We are about six weeks off having a child … holy moley!

    Actually, Jo is pushing for an early arrival …

    Our child will do no wrong, and it will certainly never vomit or cry inappropriately.

    We know this because we’ll be the proud parents and our pride will blind us to our newborn’s shortcomings.

    Or maybe it’s love, not pride…

    Stepping down a level, our pride in our albums, the stories they tell, and their look and feel, help us to talk passionately (not blindly) about them.

    It’s our passionate gestures and words that gives our pride a voice.

    It’s infectious.

    Only six weeks!!!!!!! (or less)

    Johannes

     

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  • Tom Waits has a cranky, croaky voice.

    I am listening to his CD ‘Orphans Brawlers and Bastards’ as I write this post.

    You could argue that his voice lacks ‘quality’ … The words are often run together, mumbled, and broken.

    That collection of imperfections is the quality that makes his work so unique.

    It’s a different type of ‘quality’ to the one we describe to sell our albums. We talk about the personal elements in the creation of the book. We talk proudly of the craft involved and the quality of the raw materials used in the album construction.

    We do this because we are proud of their perfections and attention to detail.

    Tom Waits, on the other hand, uses the imperfections of his voice/singing  to sell his albums.

    Cheers, Johannes

     

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  • In their vows they used the word ‘forever’, or possibly ‘until death us do part’.

    Of course they weren’t talking about their wedding album.

    But as a reflection of that fabulous day, where they promised everything to each other, you would surely expect their album to align with their personal version of ‘forever’.

    We sell this idea to our clients. We tell them that this is why we use Queensberry.

    Longevity is a double edged sword. Longevity refers to the physical life of the album and its contents.

    It also refers to the enduring nature of the design and imagery. Read as ‘simple is good’.

    We talk about how we want the album to be appreciated now, and in ten, or twenty years time.

    We share these thoughts with our clients to explain what makes our Queensberry albums special.

    Hugs, Johannes

     

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  • I was upsold to in the weekend and didn’t even know it. Now that I do though, I’m ok with it.

    Over the last few weeks my fiancee and I have been looking out wedding bands for us both. We’d again done our homework, been put off by another raft of useless sales people and ended up where we always knew we would, with the same jeweller I’d bought her engagement ring from. I blogged about that experience a while back.

    An hour later I walked out of the shop with a quote for a wedding band thicker, wider, with a bigger diamond and in higher quality gold than I’d gone in thinking I wanted.

    Kayla made the comment on the way home that the sales woman had done a great job at up-selling to us. I hadn’t thought of it that way (and if Kayla hadn’t noticed it, I probably never would have) but it was true.

    We chatted about how she’d done it and came to the conclusion that even though we’d probably ended up spending more money, we were ok with that. We still wanted to give our business to this jeweller. And here’s why…

    She’d already gained our trust in a previous sale… and reinforced it during this consultation.

    We’d a great sales experience… again … well above and beyond any other we’d experienced during this process.

    No pressure was applied to us to buy anything – just a quote.

    We felt her advice was honest, balanced and in our best interest.

    We felt she wanted to help us get what we wanted – she wanted us to have the perfect rings.

      Cheers, Nigel

       

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      In the same year they had their first child, Chris and Darcie Siiteri started their Austin (Texas) photography business, Innovative Photography. Fifteen years later they’re still at it and doing better than ever.

      I gave an initially nervous Darcie an early morning call to chat about how they approach their album sales, and what they do to ensure their clients have an amazing experience and to foster relationships with other vendors…

      Making it good

      Price wise, it’s fair to say they started low. Darcie says, “I thought that if we made a $200 profit on every wedding we’d be rich.” 98 weddings later they needed help.

      They found a mentor who told them to do four things: raise your prices, simplify your sales, have a flat hourly rate and don’t overwhelm your clients.

      So they did just that. They raised their prices and toned down their whole approach, which included clearing their studio walls of portraits to create a cleaner and simpler look. Now their biggest problem is keeping their Labrador from jumping all over their clients when they walk in the door. But changing their studio isn’t the only thing they’ve done to boost business.

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      Making the sale

      Album sales currently make up half of Chris and Darcie’s turnover. In fact, they went from ‘new client’ to what we call a ‘Top Tier’ client virtually overnight. But it wasn’t until they made a major change that they started to see increased returns from their albums sales.

      “After digital came along we stopped offering large proof books with 5×5 prints in them. Clients were seeing them as a good (free) alternative to an album, and they weren’t buying. So we started to give our clients proof books of thumbnail images instead. Our album sales instantly went up.”

      Chris and Darcie now include an Album Product Credit in their packages, which the clients can spend on whatever they like (enlargements etc). I broached the up-selling issue and she told me, “We’re artists. People love our work and they buy it, we don’t have to push it. I want every product we make to be unique and artful”. So she’s not one to push her clients, or look for the big sale, but Darcie says her clients appreciate their honesty.

      Client experience

      “We’re always direct and honest with them and give them our opinion, but I’m more concerned with the experience and relationship I have with my clients than with squeezing as much money out of them as I can.”

      That relationship starts right from the first time they meet. Darcie says rarely do any of her clients have to ring the doorbell. “When we know there’s a client coming I’ve got my eyes peeled for when they drive in. I always greet them at the door and welcome them into our studio – it’s just a little way of showing that we care and we’re excited to meet them.”

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      Clients, Vendors and us

      By this stage I knew Darcie loved making sure her clients have the most wonderful experience when they come to her – relationships are important. Chris and Darcie have also been fostering relationships with vendors in town, who they say regularly send business their way.

      “We are constantly emailing vendors new images and updating their albums – we focus on taking extremely good care of them. Almost everything we give them is free and it’s worth it’s weight in gold.”

      From hotels and florists to the local judge, they say the relationship goes both ways. For example they’ve set up a deal with a florist who, in return for product shots, sends flowers to Chris and Darcie’s top clients.

      “We work very hard at maintaining our relationships with local top hotels and wedding venues”. In fact they’ve had so many requests from vendors to do their corporate photography that Chris and Darcie have set up a Vendors Rate: vendors can get their work or personal photography done at a discounted price.

      Other than past client referrals, vendors are now Chris and Darcie’s largest source of referrals.

      Darcie says volunteer work is a great way to build and develop relationships. “We work closely with a charity for disabled children, offering our services for fundraising and promotional work.”

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      Queensberry

      So how did Chris and Darcie end up using Queensberry as their album supplier? Well it was Darcie’s 2am urge to look for ‘something different’. Sitting up late one night, surfing the net, she came across Queensberry and decided to check us out. She ordered a Queensberry album, unassembled, and put photos from a recent wedding in it to see how it would look. It wasn’t meant for the client, but the client somehow saw it and just had to have it.

      Darcie says, “Queensberry beautifies our business. To see the beautiful albums they create for our clients keeps us grounded. They’re so elegant.”

      When it comes to album design, Darcie gets Queensberry to do it. Why? “I’d rather not be designing albums when I know there’s someone else that can do it for me, and better than me.”

      Parting words

      “Have fun when you shoot, be really honest with your clients and always seek to do better,” was Darcie’s parting advice. Oh, and “Always give your clients the best products you can ever imagine.”

      Click here to view Chris and Darcie’s website and portfolio

      Cheers, Nigel

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      Darlene’s point was that I was promoting pre-design, but my advice was no help to photographers who have “no time to do that”.

      She’s right, but I can’t see what can be done about it. Pre-design requires the ability to edit the design, and for that you need the designer in the room!

      In a nutshell, that’s why we sometimes describe PJ Remix as a sales tool, not a design tool.

      On the face of it people who “don’t have time” to design their own albums run the risk of leaving money on the table. It’s worth thinking about this:

      • If you’re contracting out your album design, do it so you can get back to “shooting pictures and selling them”, where the profit is.
      • If you’re designing your own albums, treat it as design job and a sales job.

      Of course Stage 2 (selling the photographs) could be just that, a sales session to encourage your clients to buy more images for their album, but I wouldn’t assume it will save you much time. And you won’t have the ability to show them what their album could look like.

      Cheers, Ian

       

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    • Danny’s recent post reminded me of one of the best customer service/sales experiences I’ve had, when I was spending the most money I ever have. I was buying an engagement ring.

      When you’re buying an expensive, luxury or rare good, I guess you’d expect the level of service to be higher than that of a mainstream retail chain. But I went and saw plenty of other jewellers, selling rings just as expensive or beautiful, but each one of them felt “mainstream”.

      The jeweller I bought from did understand. She understood that what I was about to buy was for keeps. A once in a lifetime purchase. She’d read my story, and hers matched mine.

      She talked to me, and discussed her products, as though they were her own. As though I was buying jewellery from her own personal collection.

      It wasn’t an act. She wasn’t an outstanding sales person but she had pride, passion and love for what she was selling me.

      I didn’t feel pressured or disengaged at any time (I spent over two hours talking to her in my first visit). She wanted me to love her products as much as she did. And if I didn’t, she didn’t seem to mind.

      Cheers, Nigel

      Gee, Nigel’s a potential customer – Ian

       

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